Help Needed!!

[chris5 1]

Over the last week me and my brother have been trying to shoot some of the pigeons in a small wood in our grandparents garden, with our air rifles. Over the first few days we go one each but now they seem to have been scared off and avoid the woods totally. Should we give up or is there any way of carrying on without spooking them away? (we dont have any camouflage stuff because we cant afford any yet )

 

Thanks

[venomviper 129]

hi ya buddy

have a look at this link on here matey http://www.youtube.com/user/Zinaroon#p/u/19/sck7s8tGsUU and see what you think zini sells his dvds and they are very good and cheap but worth every penny matey and full of info to

pigeons can be the worse to shoot if they are in the trees they will spot you first way before you spot them lol i get it all the time when walking around and when i aint got a gun they will sit as if they know

but if you look at one of my vids you can see by the munty that camo does work even if its just a few sticks to break you up from then and just lie an wait is the trick static hunting works well with the woodies buddy

 

if you speak to zini on here he has some very good dvds out and you maybe able to get one from him

 

shay

hope this helps matey

[davyt63 1,845]

hi chris

i dont shoot many birds,but i do know this!

if ya get there early before sun up ,you will be able to pick em of under cover! as me and my son done a few years back! try doing a recky and just watching them from a distance with bino's and log it this will help too! not much help but some time you have to put the work in to get the rewards.it wont be long before you have loads of advise from members on here!

 

regards

 

davy

[chris5 1]

thanks both have watched the video was really helpful hopefully next week me and bro will be able to set up a hide and go early enough to get some any more advice would be great as well thanks

 

one more question: my bro has a weihrauch HW 30 and although he is a good shot when he hit a pigeon in the head it wasn't a clean kill still which isn't what we want to do. is this just bad luck or is the gun not powerful enough for hunting?

 

thanks again

[andyfr1968 772]

Hi, Chris.

 

Zini's vids are a top class bit of info and as the lads have said, a bit of recon and being able to break up your outlines will go a long way.

 

The HW30's not really ment to be a hunter, it's a lovely little gun but only mid power, 8 or 9ish ft-lbs. That said, if you're close and accurate and the gun's shooting well, he should be able to kill a pigeon cleanly with a head shot.

 

Good luck, fellas and let us know how you get on....

 

Cheers.

Edited July 16, 2010 by andyfr1968

[chris5 1]

thanks andy i guess my bro was just unlucky because he is a real good shot it just shook him up a bit when it went wrong hopefully next week we can put all these ideas into action i will report how it goes

[Phantom 631]

thanks andy i guess my bro was just unlucky because he is a real good shot it just shook him up a bit when it went wrong hopefully next week we can put all these ideas into action i will report how it goes

 

Hi there Chris,

 

You both sound pretty young to me, Ah just checked your profile 15!

 

Right, dont know if you use ebay at all perhaps get your mam or dad to order you something like this.

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390105609209

 

For 15 or so quid you get TWO Complete outfits Look around his pages and you can get them in small, medium and large. I decided to get a couple after Rossy suggested them. Must admit the large is a little small for me at the moment but I can just fasten it

 

Great value but just dont put it in the washing machine EVER!! as the charcoal componant will come out and your old lady will not thank you for ruining her washer.

I suggest if they ever do need washing, wash them in clean water or just hose them down with the garden hosepipe

 

I also reccomend an ULTRA-VIOLATE security marker pen

 

Read this paying particular attention to posts 4, 11, 13, 17 and 31

 

 

Phantom

[andyfr1968 772]

No one has a 100% clean kill rate. Sometimes we all have to follow up, so to speak....

 

All we can do is practice and hope to do the best we can.

[davyt63 1,845]

hi chris

 

also look here really good deals!!

 

http://www.britishmilitarysurplus.co.uk/ishop/1069/shopscr40.html

 

http://www.britishmilitarysurplus.co.uk/ishop/1069/shopscr43.html

 

regards

 

Davy

[Phantom 631]

 

I also reccomend an ULTRA-VIOLATE security marker pen

 

Read this paying particular attention to posts 4, 11, 13, 17 and 31

 

 

Phantom

 

I forgot to put the link in didn't I

 

Here try this checking out the above mentiond numbers

 

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/160852-woody/

 

Phantom

[chris5 1]

yay got permission to order a camo suit from ebay should be here soon hopefully with that and our hide we should ge results

 

thanks for the tip about UV as well Phantom me and bro noticed they fly away when you look at them but i thought it was something about eyes but UV make more sense hopefully on monday we will have successes to report

[Phantom 631]

My pleasure Chris,

 

Thats what we are all here for; to help others and learn from others as well

 

Any other questions, you want answers to and someone on here will be able to help out

 

I'm looking forward to your posts, don't forget your camera

 

Take care and good luck.

 

Phantom

[chris5 1]

update

 

me and bro spent day building hide (well i built he supervised lol ) looks good only had time to spend a few minutes in there but things came close, no pigeons yet though

 

 

another stupid question: we have got permission to shoot on a farm but i dont know how to get started; do we just wander around and see what we can shoot or is it best to go without rifles so we can see whats there first?

 

in the picture the trees are in the woods we can shoot, the field is full of rabbits and pigeons but we cant shoot there the first pic is the structure, the second is finished

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 19, 2010 by chris5

[markha 99]

Thats a pretty good hide you have there, If you beef the main supports up a bit more it will stand the test of time, then all you have to do is keep putting extra folliage on it throughout the year as the seasons change. It would be great if you could get permission for that field as your hide would be a good place for some static hunting.

 

As for your farm permission, you have permission to shoot so take your guns, simple Just have a slow wander around the areas you are cleared to shoot in and make sure that you know where your pellets may go if you do miss a shot and make a call on whether shooting from different directions may be unsafe, are there houses or buildings where people may get hit by a stray pellet etc If there are just make sure you shoot with those unsafe areas behind you at all times.

 

As your just getting in to it Im sure it will be a quick learning curve, especially the stalking of your prey and learning how close you can get before you spook them.

The best bit of advice I can give you is always, always, always double check that your rifle is zeroed before going on a live shoot, never assume that its zeroed just because you did it last time, it also gets you practice on a target and gets you in the right mental frame of mind.

Always try to stay down wind of your prey so your scent is carried away rather than towards your prey.

Above all be safe, know where you are both going to be shooting and keep your eyes peeled for each other if you split up.

 

Theres much to experience, just enjoy it all and have fun lads.

Mark

[Phantom 631]

Excellent looking hide there buddy

 

You can get started either way, the only time I dont take a gun is when I'm asking for permission!

 

Stalk around the hedges or stay in the hide. If you can find them look for the warrens and wait half an hour or so about 25 to 30 yards until they stick their noses out, wait until they get a yard or so away from the entrabce though before given them their free lead suplements

 

Phantom